Back with the scenographer architect on the genesis of the Franciscan project, from the first sketches to the inauguration, through the various phases of work. Today a must-see place for culture in the territory, the Franciscans looked like a sleeping beauty before the first strokes of the pickaxes began its rehabilitation. Used to transforming heritage places into cultural spaces, ranging from the Musée des arts déco Borély in Marseille, to the Hôtel de la Marine in Paris, Alain Moatti reviews the different stages of the transformation of the former convent of the Franciscan sisters into an innovative place advocating the decompartmentalization of culture.